Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Oahu folks, help settle an argument!

Is it possible, in clear weather, if you go to Kaena point on the western tip of Oahu, to see the island of Kauai? Or from any point on Oahu from that matter?





I%26#39;ve gone to Kaena twice and and haven%26#39;t seen Kauai, and I lived on Oahu for a few years and never heard of anyone seeing it. However my husband insists that it should be possible.





I think he bases this on the fact that we can see Oahu from west Maui on a clear day, and the distance from Kauai to Oahu is about the same as the distance from Maui to Oahu.



Of course from Oahu you can see Maui (back behind Molokai and Lanai) on clear days too, from the Kokohead / Sandy Beach / Makapuu area.





However, I say that the mountains on Kauai are shorter than those on Oahu and Maui, it being an older island, so it can%26#39;t be seen from as far a distance.



Oahu folks, help settle an argument!


(Just curious... Did you place a bet with him? Make a bet with him!)



The answer for the first paragraph is: no and no.



Answer to second paragraph is: not possible.



Third paragraph: standing in West Maui he is seeing Molokai.



Also a no: for the second question in the third paragraph. Distances are not the same.



Fourth paragraph: I personally have never seen Lanai or Maui on a clear day from the entire Kokohead region area icluding Sandy%26#39;s, Makapuu or the back hills of Hawaii Kai, or being on top of Tantalus-Makiki, or Wilhelmena Rise-Kaimuki-Palolo.



Fifth paragraph: I don%26#39;t know about the diff. of heights mtns. ranges per isalnd comparison.





This I do know, distance between Maui, Molokai and Lanai are approximately in the same scale of distances apart from one another. Take that distance between any of these 3 islands or it%26#39;s avg. distance, and now double it. That would be the distance between Oahu and Molokai. The distance between Kauai and Oahu is three times the distance to that of Oahu and Molokai. And of course Niihau and Kauai can see each other on a clear day too. Can%26#39;t see Kauai from Oahu and vise versa.





I don%26#39;t know of anyone who has seen Maui from Oahu or vise versa. It may be possible between Oahu and Lanai, but I doubt it. Why? Maui has no direct line of sight to Oahu. Lanai and Molokai are both blocking it%26#39;s view, no matter from what angle you look at it. Sideways lateral locations or mtn. height wise, and vise versa from Oahu to Maui is not possible.





I%26#39;m familiar with Kaena Point as my friends like to go surf at Yokohama Bay. I like to park it at Mokuleia and go horseback riding out of there up to and thru the Waianae ridgeline of Peacock Flats. Use to be just walking path widths instead, a long time ago. Now those paths have widened to the size of a 4x4 dirt road. Yikes, I%26#39;m slowly loosing my secret paradise hideaways and others finding it... Way cool to walk amongst the clouds there and not as windy as treking the Koolaus. Hope I answered some of your questions. Even my friends and family say you can only see Molokai and not Kauai from Oahu. Do you know of seeing Maui that I don%26#39;t know of? (After all these deacdes I%26#39;ve been not seeing Maui from Oahu?)





By the way, how is your cat doing? Adjusted ok?



Oahu folks, help settle an argument!


There%26#39;s 90 miles of ocean between the two so I%26#39;m w/paradisetreker and say no.....I%26#39;ve never heard of being able to see Kauai......Maui, yes, Kauai no. Although, I%26#39;ve never seen Maui from here either.....not a definitive answer was this! Sorry.




No money bet... being right is all that I want. : )





As far as Maui and Oahu seeing each other, that definitely happens. On Maui you have to be over in the Lahaina area and if it%26#39;s a crystal clear day, Oahu is visible, small on the horizon, if you look between Lanai and Molokai.





I also recall, on a haze free day on Oahu, distinctly seeing the three islands of Molokai, Maui, and Lanai from the Halona Blowhole lookout. Molokai is in front of Maui, plainly visible, but since it%26#39;s a smaller island it doesn%26#39;t totally block the view. You can still see the shape of Maui sticking out behind it, only on clear days. And Lanai is off to the right side a bit.





But as far as seeing Kauai from Oahu? I didn%26#39;t THINK so!




Did I post about my cat, PT? I forgot. Oh yeah, that%26#39;s right I did. My sis is coming out with the kitty next week. Brief stop in HNL and should be eligible for direct release with no quarantine, then home to mama on Maui. Fingers crossed, everything should go ok.





You stay Oahu now? I%26#39;ll wave at you next time I SEE Oahu from Maui. : D




OK, Kawena and all- I have very interesting news for you. Once, when I was living in Oahu, there was actually a picture on the front page of the Advertiser of Kauai, taken from out by Kaena Point. Kid you not. Apparently, there was a combination of exceptionally clear skies and some other phenomenon that allowed it to be possible. It was unusual enough of an event to warrant the news. I doubt it happens very often.



Again, on exceptionally clear days, you CAN see Maui from Oahu, but only the very top of Haleakala, and it has to be clear, too. It%26#39; s the ';bump'; to the right of Molokai that many people think is Lanai. But Kawena you%26#39;re right- it%26#39;s actually behind Lanai. However, you can%26#39;t see Oahu from Maui because Oahu doesn%26#39;t have the elevation that Haleakala does.



So, Paradise trecker, where do you rent your horses? (or does someone you know own them?)




Huh, that%26#39;s interesting Mackjack. I would love to see that photo. Darn, my husband might actually be right about something.





You can totally see Oahu, though, from West Maui. Next time you come out, take a look. The weather must be clear and it%26#39;s so far on the horizon (way beyond Lanai and Molokai) that you probably wouldn%26#39;t notice it unless you look for it, but we always do when we go that way.




Kawena, look at it this way- you basically can%26#39;t see Kauai from Oahu. You need extrememly rare and exceptionally unusual circumstances for it to happen. And probably binoculars. The picture I mentioned was MANY years ago- long before computer archives- but I know it exisits!


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